Great Wall – BT5 – Prophecy:  Abiding in the Mountain-Kingdom Fortress Rock of Christ




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Awhile back I was seeking the Lord about “abiding in the Vine of Christ to bear/carry much fruit,” which Jesus spoke of in John 15:1-17, because I was really struggling to live the victorious Christian life.  One morning a few days later, the Lord gave me a vision as I tried to wake up, but then I would fall back into pseudo-sleep to dream more of the vision.  This back-and-forth went on for 2 hours!  I would ask questions and fall back into pseudo-sleep, and after a while I just stared into my dark pillow over my face, to keep prophetically ‘seeing.’


See also Videos:  Part 1 – John 15:1-3 Abiding in the Vine of Christ to bear much fruit to glorify His FatherPart 2Part 3Part 4Part 5Part 6Part 7Summary & Application


I was walking along a sea shore in the water and wave after wave would crash into me.  I tried taking swings at the waves, but obviously that didn’t work.  I tried locking my back leg and “resisting” them as I was told James 4:7 meant about “resisting the devil so he would flee from me,” but that surprisingly didn’t work.  I tried standing up taller, but then the wave just got taller!  Then I remembered my physics class that said when the wave doubles in height the force is 4 times as much.  It’s exponential!


Nothing worked and I was losing ground, so I walked out of the deeper water and walked along the very edge, but periodically rogue waves would surprise me and I’d get soaked or almost knocked down.  I remember when I was in Cabo San Lucas, some people were washed out to sea and drowned that way!


Then I heard the Lord say, “Don’t even sight-see at the world or its sin.  Run up the beach directly away from it.  Don’t walk, run!  Flee the devil – that’s how you resist him!”  Interestingly, James coupled using the conjunction kai “[I strongly urge you to] definitely/wholly anthistemi ‘take a complete stand against, militarily or conspicuously by refusing to be moved’ the devil kai and/coupled/thus he shall [at some indefinite future time] actually pheugo ‘flee/escape to find safety’ away-from you.”  However, James first says “[I strongly urge you to] definitely/wholly be-submitted/subjected/surrendered-under to God.”  And immediately after this and the stand against the devil, James continued his thought: “[I strongly urge you to] definitely/wholly draw very-close-near to God kai and/coupled/thus He shall [at some indefinite future time] actually draw very-close-near to you.”


I’m thinking that most us have totally missed James’ point:  Submission by drawing very-close-near to God gives us the dunamis dynamite-like powerful-ability to make ‘the devil flee from us to find safety,’ because we have run from the devil & his world of sin TO God in submission to draw very-close-near.  When we do this, then God draws very-close-near to us, which then causes the devil to flee from us to find safety!  He’s fleeing from God who is NOW very-close-beside us!  There is a lot of rebuking of the devil while staying in the middle of the sinful situation instead of running to the safety of the Lord!  I asked the Lord later about those greeting cards about our footprints running along the wet sand of the ocean called “Footprints in the Sand.”  He laughed and said it was just marketing!  He said to flee the world of Satan & sin by running to Him for safety!  If you are going to do any standing against Satan that is effective, you first have to come under the authority & power of God, which you do by drawing very-close-near to God.  Then when God shows up, NOW you have an effective strategy against Satan, who will then flee from you and God working together as a team!


See also Videos:  12-2-22 Prophecy: Terrifying dreams of demon invasion – Name & Blood of Jesus are weapons:  Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5



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Back to the dream:  So I ran away from the ocean waves of Satan & sin, up the beach, and came to a Petra massive wall or cliff of Rock that ran down the beach in both directions as far as I could see, and upwards past the clouds.  It was pure black, crystalline, jagged, and very sharp!  It looked like the walls of a mighty Fortress or a castle as far as I could see in all directions.  But now the tide had come in and the waves were crashing against me once again.  Now it was even more dangerous because the waves were slamming me up against the sharp Petra Rock face.  I couldn’t see any way around it, so I looked for a cleft in the Rock to hide (a), but the water was still drowning me.  <Notes> a) Exodus 33:22; Judges 15:8, 11; Song of Solomon 2:14; Isaiah 2:21, 7:19, 57:5; Jeremiah 13:4, 16:16, 49:16; Obadiah 1:3.


So I started climbing up the Rock face, but the Rock was so sharp it made my fingers bleed.  I tried to find a ledge to rest on, but they were so narrow that I couldn’t sit or lie down.  I caught my breath but could see that I couldn’t stay there very long.  So I thought I would climb higher, but when I looked up, there was no end in sight – it went past the clouds, and I just knew it went to the throne of God.  After the dream, I was aware that this represented the impossibility of climbing up the holiness of God through our own flesh’s might & power works, giving us no peaceful-rest, just more suffering.


So I jumped back down into the water and swam along the edge of it, looking for any land, but I saw none.  I despaired, but then I saw a sea-cave a ways off and I made my way to it.  I went through the door but the waves were still rushing in, so I went deeper.  As I did the waves posed less and less of a threat because the land underneath me was naturally rising as I travelled further away from the ocean.  Finally my feet were dry and I was safe.  Exhausted from all this fighting, running, climbing, swimming, and walking, I found a big flat rock in a big cavern NOT to far in, to lie down and I fell asleep immediately – for a long time!  Later the Lord told me this was the “Sabbath Rest” (a).  <Notes> a) Hebrews 4:9.


When I woke the sun must have almost set because I could barely see in the cavern, which worried me.  I couldn’t go back to the dangerous waters, so I walked deeper, hoping to find an outlet to dry land.  I thought as I went deeper it would get darker, but now I could see even better!  I asked myself how that could be, and then heard a Voice say, “I AM the light of the world.”  Wow!  So I walked deeper but started to get really hungry, and I heard the Voice say, “I AM the bread of life,” and my hunger was gone.  So I walked deeper into what must have been a mountain!  Now I was starting to run out of air being so far from the door, but then I heard the Voice say, “I AM the breath of life,” and now I had no problem breathing.  Well I continued walking until I heard the Voice say, “Rest!  Now you are in the middle of Me.  This is the safest place to be.  Here you will find rest.”  When I woke I knew exactly what “meno Abiding/Remaining IN Christ” meant of John 15:1-17, and what the Rock and Fortress were that David and the Old Testament prophets spoke of in Great Wall – BT4.


Interestingly, scholars argue that the Greek preposition “enwith “Christ” in the dative case only means the first of these 3 options:  “IN the location or sphere of, by the means of, or with the company of,” so they always translate it “IN Christ.”  Ha!  God told me that all 3 options are always true when it comes to the Father and the Son – safety from Satan’s world and sin, but “The Light” and “The Breath” and “The Bread” and “The Rest” are all INside the Father & Son by the means of the Father & Son, and also with the company/fellowship of the Father & Son.


However, my extensive studies on God the Spirit show that the pneumati Spirit is the dunamis dynamite-like Enabling-Power or DOer or WORKer – the Action Hero – for the Father & Son – see Identity.  Douglas Petrovich in The Meaning of En Pneumati and Daniel B Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament both believe than en pnuemati in the dative case always means “by the means or instrument of.”  This makes sense because the Spirit is the DOer or WORKer, until you realize that “The Spirit” is often used interchangeably with “The Father” (a) and “The Lord Jesus” (b).  If that’s the case “in/by/with the Spirit” all could make just as much sense, and only the context can tell you what is being emphasized! <Notes> a) Matthew 10:20, b) 2 Corinthians 3:18.


Absolutely no fruit in the Kingdom or “Mountain” (a), which Jesus is, can occur without BEING and STAYING in the middle of Him.  That’s what Jesus meant by: “Whoever meno abides/remains in-inside/with Me and I in-inside/with him, he it is that bears/carries much fruit, for apart from Me you can do absolutely-in-fact-NO thing” (b). a) Isaiah 2:2, 9:7; Daniel 2:44-45, 9:16, b) John 15:5.


Since then, the Lord has taken me to the ‘Flat Bed’ many other times because of restless nights of sleep (see below) and as soon as I lay down there, I’m out cold.  Recently, I was kept awake working to get into that “sea-cave,” and He told me it’s not way “out there” to work to get to, but “the kingdom of God is in the midst of or within you” (a).  This sure has “saved me a lot of steps” and made it easier to get to the place of rest!  I just have to “Be Still” (b) and settled down into myself where the Lord is. <Notes> a) Luke 17:21, b) Psalms 37:7, 46:10, 62:1.


He has also been telling me that ‘working’ in His kingdom isn’t effective because we are putting our trusting-relying-faith in our own flesh’smight and powerskill, like the old covenant was based on per Zechariah 4:6.  Instead I need to go into this “sea-cave” of rest and peace within me, and just BE there with Christ, trusting in His Spirit’s abilities.  Jesus said, “Come to Me, all who work and are heavily burdened [of the Law of 613 commandments] and/thus I will give you rest.  Take My yoke (training harness) upon you and/coupled learn from Me for I am gentle . . . and you will find rest, for My yoke is chrestos custom-fit/tailor-made [so comfortable, pleasant, and productively-effective] and My burden feather-light-weight to carry” (e).  I noticed that I’m starting to see, hear, and feel more of His kingdom after I do this.  <Notes> a) Matthew 11:28-30.


For a little bit different perspective of this vision, check out:


11-3-20 Waking revelation that the Massive Rock Fortress of restful peace is within me


10-31-20 Falling asleep in the Fortress Rock, Waking to a whistling nose, Surrender to the Lord’s humor and stillness


10-27-20 Dream of running into The Fortress Rock of Christ for rest and safety against demonic attacks


10-24-20 Dream of the Massive Rock Fortress of Christ to find rest and safety from sin in the world



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Great Wall – BT4:  The quenching “Great Wall” is built by world’s stones NOT of The Rock




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The stones that many of today’s churches are placing on top of the foundation borrowed from the old covenant’s commandments & rituals to build “The Great Wall” we saw Great Wall – BT1 are actually stones borrowed from the world around them. They are picking up “stones” from the world’s models of leadership and success, despite Paul’s warning in Romans 12:2 to “in-possibility-NOT presently/ongoingly suschematizo ‘have the outward schematic shape/form together-with’ this age.”


The so-called “leaders” don’t even know who God called His “ministers” – it’s not just the 4 groups of equipping coaches & facilitators (a), but instead ALL the saints that do the work of the ministry (b), as we saw in Great Wall – BT2!  I’ve seen this time and time again over 40 years of various ministries in 15 churches.  The Lord clearly told me, “There are no solo acts in My kingdom!”  He has said so much about Body-of-Christ ministry!  See also Coaches and Facilitators.


<Notes> a) the idea of a “5-fold ministry” is the result of poor bible-study.  Many Greek scholars see “shepherd kai and/coupled teachers” as 1 group because the first 3 nouns of “the apostles, de moreover the prophets, de moreover evangelists (messengers/preachers of the gospel)” are listed without punctuation or kai couplers and the 4th and 5th nouns (shepherds/pastors, teachers) are linked with kai which is normally a coupler when used only 1 or 2 times, as is the case here.  We have to remember from Ephesians 4:7-8, that these 5 nouns are NOT people, offices, or titles but only some of the plural grace-gifts of the singular grace-gift of Christ to the Church from the Father that is the Holy Spirit.  Also, Paul’s gives qualifications of “elders-shepherds-bishops/overseers who are able/skilled to teach” in 1 Timothy 3:2 and 2 Timothy 2:2, 24, giving those evangelizing and/coupled teaching double-honor in 1 Timothy 5:17.  Furthermore, Paul often uses “teacher” as a verbal-noun as in 1 Corinthians 12:28-29 that emphasizes the praxis functioning of it as in Romans 10:7.  Teaching is just a praxis function of every member of the Body-of-Christ by-the-means-of the Spirit’sgrace-gifts, but especially should occur with the singular elder/shepherd/overseer group of people – see Body-Ministry and Teach-One-Another pages, b) Ephesians 4:12.


It has grieved God’s Spirit within me to see so many people “picking up of the world’s stones.”  But “what koinonia fellowship-partnership has light with darkness,” the apostle Paul asks (a)?  This same “borrowing from the world” has occurred within worship music!  Because so many are so concerned about attracting larger audiences, “the ends have now justified the means.”  <Notes> a) 2 Corinthians 6:14.


However, the Church can’t be built using a foundation or stones borrowed from anything but Christ and His Spirit!  The Church can’t borrow the same “success” goals or methods from the old covenant, the business world, or any other religion or philosophy.  Paul warns in Colossians 2:8, “See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and/coupled empty/vain deceit, kata down-from/according-to human tradition, kata down-from/according-to the stoicheion ‘elemental/fundamental ‘abc’ principles’ of the world, and/thus absolutely-in-fact-NOT kata down-from/according-to Christ.”



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The Petra “mass of solid rock, native foundational bedrock that protrudes from the earth, like a projecting cliff” that Christ builds His church on is definitely NOT Peter who Jesus named from his original name Simon that meant ‘to hear’ but was akin to ‘flat-nosed’ that in Leviticus 21:18 is the name of a deformity which disqualified a member of a priestly family for serving the altar.  Cephas in Aramaic means “a stone ball” and Peter in Greek is petros that means “a pebble, like a small isolated rock found along a pathway or in a river bed.”  The Catholic Church really got that wrong!  But then many Protestants say that that Petra refers to “our public-confession of trusting-relying-faith” (traditionally done at water-baptism for salvation) that Peter was the first to make:  “You are the Christ (The Anointed One, Messiah/Savior), the Son of the living God.”  But Nathaniel was the first to get that same revelation as soon as he met Jesus in John 1:49:  “Rabbi, you are the Son of God!  You are the King of Israel,” long before Peter did!  So what makes Peter so special?  Why is he declared the first Pope by the Catholic Church?


Both groups are blind to the constant references Jesus made to the prophetic scriptures about Himself!  The Petra “massive bedrock” is “the living God,” the Father of Christ that David prophetically spoke of:  “For You are my Rock and my fortress” (a), which David also said of:  “You are my Father, my God, and/coupled the Rock of my salvation” (b).  God asks, “Is there a God besides Me?  There is no Rock; I know not any!” (c)!  And “There is none holy like Yahweh:  For there is none besides You; there is no Rock like our God” (d), and “Yahweh is my Rock and my fortress and my deliverer, my God, my Rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield, and the horn [symbol of strength] of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge, my Savior” (e).  Also, “Yahweh, my Rock and my Redeemer, for . . . they remembered that God was their Rock, the Most High God their Redeemer” (f).


<Notes> a) Psalms 31:3 , cf. Psalms 71:3, b) Psalms 89:26, c) Isaiah 44:8 , cf. Psalms 18:31, d) 1 Samuel 2:2, e) 2 Samuel 22:2-3, cf. Psalms 18:2, 18:46, f) Psalms 19:14, 78:35.  See also:  Deuteronomy 32:4, 15, 18, 30-31, 3; 2 Samuel 22:32, 47, 23:3; Psalms 28:1, 31:2-3, 42:9, 61:2, 62:2, 6-7, 71:3, 78:35, 89:26; 92:15, 94:22, 95:1, 144:1; Isaiah 17:10, 26:4, 30:29, 51:1; Habakkuk 1:12.


Yahweh God was the “Rock” that Moses struck in Exodus 17:6, that he was only to speak to in Numbers 20:8 but in anger struck again twice in Numbers 20:11 that cost him entering into the promised land (a).  However, Paul said this same Rock was Christ (b), who is the “Rock of stumbling that flips pulls the animal up into the trees from a trap” (c) that Jesus says people must fall onto to be broken to pieces unless they want it to fall on them and crush them (d) – see Surrendered Control.  However, David prophecies of the Messiah speaking to His Father:  “You are My Father, My God, and the Rock of My salvation.’  And I will make Him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth” (e). <Notes> a) cf. Deuteronomy 8:15; Nehemiah 9:15; Psalms 78:15-16, 20, 105:41; Isaiah 10:26, 48:21, b) 1 Corinthians 10:4, c) Isaiah 8:14; Romans 9:33; 1 Peter 2:8, d) Matthew 1:44, e) Psalms 98:26-27.


How can the Rock be both Yahweh God and also Christ?  Because Jesus said “I and the Father are one” (a), yes, “One, just as You, Father, are in Me, and I in you” (b), for “to us a child is born, to us a Son is given . . . and His name shall be called . . . Mighty God, Everlasting Father . . .” (c).  Jesus is “the image of the invisible God, the preeminent of all creation” (d).  God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the Petra Rock of which we must build the Church on.  Nothing else is needed!  It’s surely not Simon Cephas/Peter!  <Notes> a) John 10:30, b) John 17:21, c) Isaiah 9:6, d) 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15.




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Great Wall – BT3:  How does any of this so far relate to Christian music?




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How does Great-Wall – BT1 and – BT2 BLOGS apply to Christian musicians?  I, like many Christian musicians came from a worldly life of Zechariah 4:6’s “might and power fleshly performance FOR myself, and then later the same, but now FOR God, within so many churches.  I started learning & playing drums in 1968.  I became a Christian at a Church of Christ in 1980 and although they didn’t allow instrumental music, they didn’t seem to have a problem with it at their parties outside their church building!


Like so many Christian musicians, I played FOR my own pleasure, money, fame, and even FOR God, to please Him, or even to feel “more right” with Him.  That’s sure the way I felt for a long time playing in 15 churches!  And I talked to a lot of others that felt the same way!  We were actually proud to be Christian musicians ‘serving God’ in this way.  However, our rehearsals were often more fleshly than the other 25 secular bands I’ve been in, full of impatience, even hot-tempers, and worry.  This was a terrible testimony to church music!


But then in 1985-1990 and again after 2010, I was “enlightened/illuminated, then having tasted the heavenly grace-gift [of the Spirit], and/coupled have-become metochos ‘active partaker with, which results in a change afterwards’ of the Holy Spirit, and/coupled have tasted the kalos ‘beautifully-good that inspires/motivates others to embrace what is lovely & praiseworthy’ of the directly-spoken/heard prophetic rhema words of God [by the Spirit], also the [Spirit’s] enabling-powers (signs & wonders miracles) of the age to come.”  All these kai “couplers” make it evident that this is Spirit-kind-of anointed and prophetic in koinonia intimate-partnership with God.


The real danger is if we then “have fallen away” from this intimate experience and gone back to our own “might and power.”  How can they “be restored again to repentance, since they would be again crucifying the Son of God and/coupled [routinely/habitually] subjecting [Him] to public, open shame/disgrace,” as Hebrews 6:4-6 warns?  The Jewish-Christians were being tempted by Law-teachers to go back to Moses’ Law.  If they did, this is what would happen!


As for myself, after I started playing by-the-means-of the Spirit, I’ve only been hungrier for more!  I’ve also played in 25 secular bands, some that I just had to quit because they were so fleshly, but I’ve also had to do the same for some churches!  Some secular bands were fairly neutral, but although as a hired musician they have been important for my income, I would drop them in one second for an opportunity to play by-the-means-of the Spirit.  However, I haven’t found too many churches or other Christian musicians that really want to go down that road!  I’m really hoping that this Spirit Music Meet-Ups ministry will foster more opportunities!  Meanwhile, I will continue to go out in local parks and metochos play WITH God and declare His prophetic-rhema words.


Now an interesting thing has happened during my secular gigs since “I tasted the kalos beautiful-goodness of the directly-spoken/heard prophetic rhema words of God” to me, especially in 2020 that “You are an anointed musician who knows what it means to be filled by My Spirit, who knows what it is to play by My Spirit, and one day you will play in My courtyards with many others that I have chosen.”  As I’m playing these secular gigs, I’m NOW aware of this new identity, I feel an inner joy, I find myself smiling, I am feeling more confidence and less fear, I’m watching myself play so much more intuitively without as much analysis, I’m playing so much better, and I’m getting complemented more by the musicians.  I just say I’m really having fun and feeling very grateful.  I’m still trying to process this big difference.  I’m also starting to share more with these musicians and my students this new life-changing direction!


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Great Wall – BT2:  I saw “The Great Wall” quenching the Holy Spirit in many churches




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I recently watched a well-known American woman prophetic speaker at a local church on the topic of ‘revival.’  They had a half-hour of worship beforehand that was fairly charismatic but nothing I haven’t seen a 1000 times before, and nothing too exuberant.  Though a few people were, I didn’t feel very motivated to raise my hands let alone sing loudly, but the band was “professional” and they had 2 screens for the words to the songs and enthusiastic dancers with scarves & flags on the side.  They had “might and power” fairly down pat.


Before the pastor introduced the speaker, he said he was going to ring a ‘revival cowbell’ that a couple from Texas gave him.  He treated it like a sideshow gimmick, but it peaked my interest since I’m a professional drummer and percussionist.  I bet he was shocked because immediately after he started, the whole place jumped out of their seats and shot up  their hands, including me, and praised God at the top of their lungs – and not one instrument was playing!  But for some reason, after a couple of minutes, he stopped ringing it.  I saw him glance at his watch and he probably realized he was behind schedule!


There seemed to be a spiritual void afterwards that the pastor and speaker never did succeed in filling, no matter how loud they talked or preached.  She even put on a recording of music during a ‘legitimate revival’ she had witnessed years back in Toronto Canada, and said, “That’s the sound of revival,” and I admit it was absolutely heavenly beautiful!  She called for the audience to spontaneously sing by the Spirit a completely-different-in-kind “New song” and join in with the music.  It was so pitifully weak that she called for the recording to be turned up to help encourage us, but to no avail.  It sounded like the people had been fasting for weeks, beaten down from hunger and fatigue, and depressingly TRYING to praise the Lord.  That’s the weakness of the flesh’smight and power!”


I was so perplexed by this that I just started asking the Lord why I felt this way and why it sounded like we were all so sick & tired, but during the ‘revival cowbell’ so alive?  Then I was shown a “Great Wall” of division between the ‘ministers/clergy’ up on the stage and the ‘audience/laity’ sitting in their seats (see the previous BLOG) and a crack formed in it when the ‘revival cowbell’ was ringing, but the “minsters/clergy” did not perceive it, or if they did, their “might and power” plans, programs, and schedules blocked them from meno abiding/remaining in the Presence of God that came when the ‘revival cowbell’ was ringing, when the Spirit’s power was actually moving the standing people to loudly praise with uplifted-hands.


Then I suddenly understood that part of “The Great Wall” was the so-called “ministers” own misconception that they were the ones hired to “minister” that night – see Leaders versus Body-Ministry.  The ‘on-stage’ minister’s “might and power” attempts at worship resulted in almost no spiritual effect, because they were in the flesh, even though they were doing/working FOR God.


Oh, they talked about moving in the Spirit, but didn’t understand that by them ‘hogging the ball’ they were keeping the actual ‘players delegated to sitting on the bench’ watching the coaches & referees & cheer-leaders instead of being on the court playing.  The Spirit’s flow was ‘bottle-neck’ restricted down to 1 or 2 people on stage ‘hogging the ball,’ instead of the Spirit being allowed to “work/do the work of ministry” thru all the saints in the Body-of-Christ right then and there.


But during that 1-2 minutes of that ‘revival cowbell’ ringing, the whole Body-of-Christ was ministering to one another reciprocally/mutually, the exact meaning of allelon ‘one another’ as in Galatians 5:13 “dia ‘thru the realizing channel of’ the unconditional-love, presently/ongoingly be serving/ministering-to one-another reciprocally/mutually,” and often heautou ‘each other’ as in 1 Peter 4:10, “as each of you has received a grace-gift, use it to serve/minister-to each-other mutually/reciprocally as good stewards of God’s manifold grace.”


The “ministers/clergy” didn’t understand that they were supposed to simply be equipping coaches and facilitators, passing the ball to the players to play the game, and making it easier for them to play the game well.  And so they “quenched the Spirit” just as Paul warned against in 1 Thessalonians 5:19. Finally, to compensate for the lack of zoe genuine-life in the church service, they tried all the harder with their flesh’smight and power.”




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Great Wall – BT1:  “The Great Wall” foundational problem quenching the Holy Spirit in today’s church




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Great Wall – BT1:  “The Great Wall” foundational problem quenching the Holy Spirit in today’s church



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The foundation of “The Great Wall” that is quenching the Holy Spirit underlying so much of Christian ministry is that many self-proclaimed “ministers” really don’t understand nor have they fully surrendered control to Zechariah 4:6’s prophecy about the completely-different-in-kind New (a) Covenant Ways that were to REPLACE and END the old covenant ways:  “Absolutely-in-fact-NOT or in-possibility-NOT by-the-means-of might NOR by-the-means-of power but-instead by-the-means-of My Spirit, say Yahweh of hosts (ruler of all).”  This is all explained more fully in the “Might & Power and Promised Spirit” pages, but for now “might and power” essentially means “all of man’s external resources and internal abilities such as buildings, equipment, knowledge, skill, and self-mastery.”  <Notes> a) chadash, kainos: fresh, completely different-in-kind, unprecedented, sharing nothing with its predecessors, unique, and superior.


Many Christians and musicians simply have not grasped the complete difference between the old covenant conditional “way” of obedience FOR God to get His blessings, which puts our trusting-relying-faith in the flesh’s own “might and power” that is completely different-in-kind from the unconditional New Covenant “Living Way” that instead puts our trusting-relying-faith in God’s Spirit.  But if they do grasp this, they haven’t fully surrendered control to it!


However, I’ve found in most cases that they simply haven’t read or fully understood the Old Testament (OT) prophesies about the New Everlasting Covenant completely REPLACING and ENDING the old covenant’s Torah Law of conditional-favor and thus 97.4% of graphe scripture – see Logos Word of God – BT5a and the New Covenant Ways page to understand this fully.  When they “borrow” from this old foundation to build their ministry under the New Covenant, they have started to build “The Great Wall” that quenches the Holy Spirit.


For example, the idea of “clergy and laity” was “borrowed” for the OT, which is a faulty foundation for the New Testament (NT) Church.  The term “clergy” means “a group ordained to perform pastoral or sacerdotal functions in a Christian church.” It was first used in the 13th c. by the Catholic Church, but they “borrowed” the idea from the Greek klerikos which means “an inheritance, in reference to the fact that the OT Levitical priests had no inheritance except the Lord.  They shall live on the food offerings presented to the Lord, for that is their inheritance.”  A tenth of the tithe given to the Levite tribe went to the Levitical priests.


A back-sliding Catholic church reinstated OT tithing of agricultural produce in 567 and 585 AD, obligatory by 779 AD, and as wages in 1200 AD, which they also “borrowed” from the OT.  Sure we have plenty written in the NT about liberal, cheerful, and even sacrificial GIVING but NOT tithing (a).  Catholic priests are not Levitical priests that have their portion or inheritance in the Lord, nor should they be receiving a tithe or any form of payment – see Ministry Finances.  Francis Chan’s video The Truth About Tithing is excellent.  Dr. Russell Earl Kelly’s book Should the CHURCH TEACH Tithing is great!  Is scholarly article Teaching is NOT a Christian Doctrine is fantastic. <Notes> a) Acts 2:43–47, 4:32–37, 11:27–30; Galatians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 16:1-4; 2 Corinthians 8:1–9:15


The Catholic Church had to come up with a term for the “non-clergy, or common people” so they invented the Latin word “laity” in the 15th c., which again is “borrowed” from the Greek laikos, which simply means “of the people, the people at large.”  So you can see the impetus from “clergy and laity” all comes from the OT, but using terms from pagan cultures.


“Ordination” of clergy is entirely an OT practice – you won’t find the word used once in the NT!  However, the NT does speak 25 times about “sanctification, consecration, or dedication to make separate for God’s hagiazo sacred purposes,” and the result is that these ceremonially “uncommon and clean vessels of honor” are now hagios holy.  This is the same Greek word for “saint” used 213 times in the NT of ALL Christians, and certainly NOT the practice of sainthood that the Catholic Church started in 993 AD for a select few ‘special Christians.’


The completely-different-in-kind New Covenant says that ALL Christians are part of a royal priesthood (a), priests belonging to the King of kings, “making us a kingdom, priests to His God and Father” (b).  EVERY one of us is been made “special, uncommon, or a vessel of honor” (c).  There is now only One High Priest, the Lord Jesus, and we are ALL priests, “all just brethren” (d) of the Family of God.  <Notes> a) 1 Peter 2:9, b) Revelation 1:6 5:10, 20:6, c) Romans 9:21; 2 Timothy 2:21-21, d) Matthew 23:8 – see Teach One Another – BT10.


There are no OT “chief priests” in Christ’s kingdom.  Jesus warned often about “having authority over others like the Gentiles – it shall absolutely-in-fact-NOT and in-possibility-NOT be so among you” (a).  If the OT was only a “fuzzy-shadow/outline of things to come” (b), why are churches “borrowing” from it?  The Protestant Church is absolutely no better!  They may not use the same terms, but they are using the same ideas that there is a ‘special class’ of Christians, the “ordained professionals,” and then the rest of the congregation are “commoners.”  This divisiveness is still straight from the pit of hell!  <Notes> a) Matthew 20:26; Mark 10:43, b) Colossians 2:17; Hebrews 8:5, 10:1.


The Lord has clearly showed me that a major part of the faulty foundation of The Great Wall quenching the Holy Spirit is this division between those “in front” and the congregation facing them, a division that was started in the Catholic Church that has mostly been unreformed in the Protestant Church.  Because of this, I’ve dedicated the Equippers – Coaches and Facilitators page to this.




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