BT8 – Tongues & Interpretation

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BT8:  The grace-gift of the Holy Spirit is evidenced by signs, wonders, and grace-gifts given for power and ministry

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See also Spirit-Baptism-BT2:  Spirit-Baptism brings grace-gifts and signs & wonders

 

The Promised dorea free-gift of the Holy Spirit is given by the unconditionally-loving-favor-of-grace AFTER you have repented (conviction to turn) and/coupled been water-baptized in the name/authority of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, according to Peter on the 1st day of the Church Age (a) in Acts 2:38-39, “For This Promise is for you and for your children and for ALL who are far off, everyone whom the Lord [Jesus] our God calls to Himself.”  “The Promise” in mind is the visible and audible manifestations of the Spirit per v. 2:33 upon 120 disciples praying in the upper-room that were “ALL been filled-to-completion by-the-means-of the Holy Spirit and/coupled continually speaking by-the-means-of heteros other-different-in-kind of glossa tongues/languages as the Spirit edidou ‘[continually] was giving/granting-as-a-gift, supplying/furnishing, enduing’ to them to presently/ongoingly apophtheggomai ‘speak/utter out/forth or pronounce/declare to make a generic/unintelligible sound resembling the whinny of a horse” in v. 2:4.  <Notes> a) Last day/times, end of the age(s):  1 Peter 1:20; Hebrews 1:2, 9:26; Acts 2:17, 39; 1 Corinthians 10:11; 2 Timothy 3:1; James 5:3; 2 Peter 3:3, until it’s finality at the great harvest when the Church is “raptured/removed” before the Judgement of the Earth:  Matthew 13:39-40, 49; 24:3, 28:20.

 

In Acts 2:11-13, the Jews from every nation who gathered for Pentecost said “we hear them telling in our own glossa tongues/languages the mighty works of God” and pas ‘all of a kind’ (these who spoke) were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?”  But others mocking said, “They are drunk on gleukos ‘highly-inebriating, fresh-juice, sweet, newly fermented wine’.”   To explain to the mocking Jews what was happening, Peter cites Joes 2:28-29 in Acts 2:17-19 to illustrate thru a series of refining stanzas that the male & female servants of God who are from the Jews’ sons & daughter who are from all mankind will be the ones actually prophesying even by envisioning visions (a) and dreaming dreams during the Church Age exactly as a result of God “pouring out His Spirit.”  So apparently the disciples’ speaking in tongues/language were prophesying the mighty works of God, just as 1 Corinthians 14:6 says tongue can include! <Notes> a) horao horasis: generally to observe with the eyes, implying attention, concern, or heed, sometimes being acquainted through experience, but often emphasizing a vision much like eido mental ‘seeing’ to perceive/know with a discerning or ‘weighing-in’ mind.  Eido prophetic knowledge is the uniqueness of the New Covenant per Jeremiah 31:34 cited in Hebrews 10:17.  This is very similar to optanomai: gaze in awe with wide-open eyes upon used in Matthew 5:8; John 16:22; Romans 15:21; Acts 13:31; 1 John 3:2 or katoptrizo that is kataptron mirror + a derivative of optanomai = gaze in awe with wide-open eyes as in a mirror used only in 1 Corinthians 3:18.

 

We see in Acts 9:17-18 Paul getfilled by-the-means-of the Holy Spirit” and miraculously healed by a prophet from his blindness after his encounter with Jesus on the road to Damascus when he was called into ministry by Him.  And so “he rose up and was water-baptized” for salvation!

 

In Acts 19:1-7, when Paul encountered 12 Jewish men in Ephesus who had been listening to Apollos preach, he must have noticed something was missing because instead of asking them, “So what church do you all go to?” like we would, Paul asked a more important question:  “Did you lambano ‘grab hold of to receive’ the Holy Spirit when you had trusting-relying-faith?”  The Church of Christ never asked me that, even after I got water-baptized!  After finding out they had never heard of the Holy Spirit, Paul asked, “Then of what eis ‘toward and reaching the goal of’ had you been water-baptized?” This implies there is a purpose for water-baptism that involves the Holy Spirit!  Again the Church of Christ never told me that before water-baptism.  I had zero expectations for the Holy Spirit.

 

After they responded “John’s Baptism,” Paul reminded them that John had told the people to put their trusting-relying-faith in Jesus.  On hearing this, they were water-baptized in the name/authority of the Lord Jesus . . . and after laying hands on them, then the Holy Spirit came upon them and/then they continually were speaking by-the-means-of glossa tongues/languages and/coupled were continually prophesying.”  Nobody laid hands on me to expect any of this to happen!  It’s very clear that Paul expected there to be apparent signs of the Holy Spirit after being water-baptized and when he didn’t perceive them, he moved them that direction and then they got them, and those signs were tongues and prophecy!  It is very upsetting that the Church of Christ couldn’t read and obey the bible, because it took me 5 years of real struggle before I finally got The Promised grace-gifts from the Holy Spirit of tongues, but it took 40 years to learn how to akouo ‘listen/hear-to-understand/know’ the Voice of Christ, which is that nature of prophecy.  Just think how much I could have grown if churches would just teach the truth?

 

At the Great Commission account in Mark 16:15-20 of Jesus to “Having routinely poreuomai ‘gone/journeyed port to port’ into all the world, [I strongly urge you to then] kerusso ‘proclaim, herald, or preach’ the ‘good news/message’ gospel [logos message] to the whole creation” after describing the necessary response of “routinely having trusting-relying-faith and/coupled routinely having been water-baptized to actually become saved” to escape “being condemned” with the rest of the world by default in John 3:16-17, Jesus then says:  “Now these semeionmiraculous signs given to confirm, corroborate, or authenticate’ shall actually parakoloutheo ‘follow/join/attend along close-beside as a disciple would their leader’ those who already routinely had trusting-relying-faithIn My name/authority they shall actually cast out demons, they shall actually speak by-the-means-of kainos ‘completely-different-in-kind, unprecedented, unique, superior NEW” glossa tongues/languages, [4 others given including divine healing]. . . [Jesus ascended into heaven] . . .

 

“Now having routinely exerchomai ‘come out of to another place’ they definitively/wholly preached everywhere, the Lord routinely sunergeo ‘working/doing together-with’ [them] and/coupled routinely begaioo ‘making the ground under them solid, sure, fully reliable, thus confirming, ratifying’ the logos message [of the gospel they preached] dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of the semeion ‘‘miraculous signs given to confirm, corroborate, or authenticate,’ routinely epakoloutheo ‘following/joining/attending along closely fitting/in-connection-to’ [the logos message].”

 

Clearly glossa tongues/languages was a sure “proving-sign that authenticated a preached gospel message.  Maybe the reason why more churches don’t experience this is that:  1) They are actually don’t have trusting-relying-faith, 2) They really are not disciples or followers of Christ, 3) They aren’t preaching the gospel but just about everything else, and/or 4) They are on their own without “God working with them” or “accompanying their message” because in some way they have quenched the Spirit, so that God’s Spirit won’t ‘show up’ to confirm some other message of theirs.  Since I’ve played in 15 music ministries and been to many more churches than that, I can say that I have seen plenty of all this!  It’s very disheartening to see this, and they are clueless as to why they have had so little effect on the surrounding community.

 

The New Testament writers never give a complete list or description of grace-gifts in any of their writings, but only include items/descriptions to illustrate the point they are making.  Paul has various incomplete lists with missing Greek connectors that are a dead giveaway the lists aren’t meant to be complete:  “logos message of wisdom, logos message of gnosis informational-knowledge, trusting-relying-faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, distinguishing/discerning spirits (a), various-different-kinds of tongues/languages, interpretation of tongues” (b), “apostles, prophets, teachers, miracles, healing, helping, kubernesis ‘helmsman who steers a ship, pilot or captain, director who guides, administrates, etc.’, various-different-in-kind of tongues/languages, interpretation of tongues/languages” (c), “prophecies, tongues/languages, gnosis informational-knowledge” (d), “revelation, gnosis informational-knowledge, prophecy, teaching” (e), “teaching, revelation, tongue, and interpretation” (f), “prophecy, trusting-relying-faith, service/helping, teaching, exhorting/encouraging, generous-giving, proistemi ‘standing before/in-front as a model/example to direct/supervise/manage/lead others’, acts of mercy” (g), 4 groups of grace-gifts of “apostles, prophets, evangelists (gospel-preachers), shepherds and/coupled teachers to equip (coach & facilitate) the saints to be the working-ministers” (h), “routinely teaching and/coupled routinely noutheteo ‘gently reasoning thru warning, admonishment, exhortation, or counseling’ heautouEACH OTHER reciprocally’” (i), foundation of apostles and prophets (j), Timothy having the gift of evangelism by the laying of hands (k).  We also see those gifted to instrumentally/vocally play spontaneous prophetic Spirit-kind-of odes” or completely-different-in-kind, superior “New Songs” (l) just as Paul purposed in 1 Corinthians 14:14-15 to “psalm by-the-means-of the Spirit” and in context this means in tonguesPeter has a short list:  “speaking the prophetic-oracles of God, serving/helping” (m).

 

<Notes> a) 1 John 4:1, b) 1 Corinthians 12:8-10, c) 1 Corinthians 12:28-30, d) 1 Corinthians 13:8, e) 1 Corinthians 14:6, f) 1 Corinthians 14:26, g) Romans 12:6-8, h) Ephesians 4:12, i) Colossians 3:16, j) Ephesians 2:20, 3:5, k) 1 Timothy 4:14, l) Ephesians 5:19; Colossians 3:16 – see also Spontaneous Music-BT5, – BT6, and – BT7, m) 1 Peter 4:10-11; 2 Peter 1:21.

 

ALL of this is about Body-Ministry for people having different praxis functions, not positions or office or titles or prestige or authority over others lest “any many think of himself more highly than he ought to think but with sober judgment” (a).  Jesus said in Matthew 23:8-10 “But you are in-possibility-NOT to be called rabbi (teacher), for you have One Teacher, and you are ALL brethren. And call in-possibility-NO man your father on earth, for you have One Father, who is in heaven.  Neither be called kathegetes ‘master-leading-teachers, those leading ‘down from’ over, leading them down the road of learning’, for you have One Master-Leading-Teacher, the Christ.”  Jesus addressed every position, office, or title of prestige and authority over others in the Jewish religion and He warned His disciples “Don’t go there!”  Jesus alone is “Head over all things to the Church” (b). Then why do we have Head Pastors and every other crazy position, office, and title for so many Church leaders?  Religion! <Notes> a) Romans 12:3, cf. Matthew 20:20-28 paralleled in Mark 10:35-45; Luke 22:24-30, b) Ephesians 1:22, 4:15, 5:23; Colossians 1:18, 2:10, 19; 1 Corinthians 11:3.

 

The rest of us in the Body-of-Christ are just different members with a metron ‘measuring cup that measures out equal amounts for fair trade/purchase’ even of the grace-gift of The-Trusting-Relying-Faith” (a) and also the grace-gift of the Holy Spirit dwelling within us (b), just as music metronome beats are precisely equal.  What makes the members different is their different praxis functions (c).  All the Spirit’s gifts are given by unmerited, undeserved, unearned, unconditional-loving-favor or grace evidenced by the Greek word for “gifts” that is charismata, derived from the word charis that means grace, thus meaning “gifts given by grace.”  Since we are all viewed as equal metron ‘measuring-cups’ because “God shows no partiality or favoritism” (d), “The One and the Same Spirit is presently/ongoingly are working all these things (i.e., grace-gifts), routinely diaireo ‘dividing, distributing, apportioning’ hekastos ‘to each individual separately/distinctly’ idios ‘as uniquely/peculiarly one’s own’ kathos ‘down-from/according-to the extent/degree of, corresponding to fully/exactly as’ [the Spirit] boulomai ‘resolutely plans, stronger than thelo optimally-desires’.” Finally, there’s absolutely no evidence for ranking of grace-gifts regardless of our poor bible translations – see Coaches & Facilitators-BT12. <Notes> a) Romans 12:3 – see Obedient Steps of Faith – BT21, b) Ephesians 4:7, c) not offices, positions, or titles – see Obedient Steps of Faith – BT21, d) Acts 10:34; Romans 2:11; Galatians 2:6; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 3:25.

 

Since the lists aren’t complete, the emphasis of the church-assembly passages is like that in Ephesians 5:19 where we are to “routinely be laleo conversationally-speaking to heautouEACH OTHER reciprocally’ psalms, hymns, and Spirit-kind-of odes (a) or like that in Colossians 3:16 “routinely teaching and/coupled routinely noutheteo ‘gently reasoning thru warning, admonishment, exhortation, or counseling’ heautouEACH OTHER reciprocally’ psalms, hymns, and Spirit-kind-of odes (a). It’s sad that so many churches don’t pattern themselves after biblical models but borrow from the world, building The Great Wall quenching the Holy Spirit! <Notes> a) odes: psalms or hymns done spontaneously as completely-different-in-kind “New songs” instead of being pre-composed.

 

However, the emphasis isn’t on just EACH ONE being involved but its benefit on the whole church-assembly: “To hekastos ‘EACH individual separately/distinctly’ is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common-profiting” (a).  “When you come together hekastos ‘EACH individual separately/distinctly’ holding-to-have” a psalm, a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, an interpretation.  [I strongly urge you to] presently/ongoingly ginomai ‘bring-into-being, birth’ all-things pros ‘toward and reaching’ [singular] building-up” (b) of the Church.  This isn’t a self-centered ‘one-man show’ or elite leadership as Paul warns of (c)!  It’s all based on “unconditional-love that builds up” (d), which is actually more important than all the grace-gifts (e).  Thus Paul strong-urges us to presently/ongoingly dioko ‘aggressively chase like a hunter after its catch’ The Unconditional-Love” in addition to “presently/ongoingly being zealous after The Spirit’s grace-gifts, but especially that you may presently/ongoingly prophesy” (f), and finally that “all things (g) of/belonging-to you ginomai ‘come into being, be birthed’ by-the-means-of unconditional-love” (h). <Notes> a) 1 Corinthians 12:7, b) v. 14:26, c) Romans 12:3 – see Coaches & Facilitators – BT11, d) 1 Corinthians 8:1, e) vv. 13:1-13, f) v. 14:1, g) context:  grace-gifts, h) v. 16:14.

 

Paul repeatedly calls us to use EACH of these different grace-gifts as praxis functions to “build up the Body-of-Christ until we all attain to the unity of The-Trusting-Relying-Faith and/coupled of the genuine, experiential, relational epignosis knowledge of the Son of God eis ‘toward and reaching to goal of’ a complete man eis ‘toward and reaching to goal of’ the stature of the abundantly-completeness of Christ” (a).  Peter also stresses USING what’s been given you:  “as EACH has already lambano ‘grabbed hold of to receive’ a grace-gift, [now use] them eis “toward and reaching the goal of’ routinely serving/ministering to heautouEACH OTHER reciprocally’” (b).  <Notes> a) Ephesians 4:12-13, b) 1 Peter 4:10-11.

 

Have churches surrendered their control the Holy Spirit to flow unimpeded through the Body-of-Christ to minister to one another during the church service?  Or do the churches restrict or quench the Spirit’s flow primarily to 1 or 2 paid “professionals” or a “special group” on stage?  Is the “ministry” only from the clergy?  Is the “greet your neighbor, ‘peace be with you’ handshake” or the chat around the coffee and donuts in the foyer the extent of the koinonia fellowship or sharing of each other’s grace-gifts?  Is the “psalming” mostly one-directional:  The “special” band on stage with all the people listening to and watching them from the audience like they were at a concert?  I’ve played in 15 church bands to 1000s of people and in most cases it’s not much different than my secular concerts from 22 secular bands also to 1000s of people!  Where in the New Testament have you ever seen a stage that elevates “special people” and audience that watches them perform?

 

 

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