Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” – Spirit Music Meet-Ups
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Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” is “The Promise we are to wait for”
The grace-gifts and signs & wonders of the Promised Holy Spirit are God’s way of “working together with us” to confirm the preaching of the gospel logos message (a). If we don’t preach the gospel, or we don’t seek the Spirit’s baptism or filling, or we don’t “routinely aiteo ask for, seek or earnestly desire” the supernatural grace-gifts of the Holy Spirit (b), including proseuchomai conversationally-praying and singing in tongues (c), but especially prophesying (d) – defined in BLOG Topic 1 below, or we quench the Spirit (e) by forbidding or despising any of these grace-gifts but especially tongues and prophecy (f), then we simply can NOT expect the same profound results that the early Church had until around 200 AD. This was about the time the Catholic Church started persecuting the Montanist churches that held to “New Prophecy” given by modern prophets and researched through the extensive writings of Tertullian, the premiere documenter and theologian of the Holy Spirit at that time. However, the history of revival confirms the absolute truth of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit through grace-gifts and signs & wonders over and over – see Spirit-Baptism – BT2 and – BT3, and Cure of All Ills by Dr. Mary Stewart Relfe. <Notes> a) Mark 16:17-20, b) Luke 11:13; 1 Corinthians 12:31, 14:1, c) 1 Corinthians 14:5, 14-15, 18, d) 1 Corinthians 14:31, 39, e) 1 Thessalonians 5:19-20 – see The Great Wall quenching the Spirit, f) 1 Corinthians 14:39.
Jesus promises in Mark 16:17-20, “And these signs shall actually accompany those who are having trusting-relying-faith: In My name/authority they shall actually cast out demons; they shall actually speak in new tongues; . . . they shall actually lay their hands on the sick to recover.” And Mark further records, “And they went out and preached (a) everywhere, while the Lord routinely worked together with (b) them and confirmed the logos message by accompanying signs.” Hebrews 2:4 also says, “God also bore witness/testified by signs and wonders and various miracles and by grace-gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed down-from/according-to His will.” <Notes> a) v. 15: the gospel logos message, b) sunergeo: co-working, partnering.
The History of the Church proves that the Supernatural Manifestations of the Spirit are also for Today:
All throughout the history of the Church, “grace-gifts, and signs, wonders, and miracles as manifestations of the Spirit” (a) were occurring as a result of “The Promise” of the Holy Spirit and follow-up practice of Spirit-baptism that occurred during and even repetitively after water-baptism, which all began on the Day of Pentecost (b). The supernatural results should always be the same: “The Lord [Jesus] added to their number daily those who were being saved” (c) – that is, if the Church still has the same mission, the same gospel logos message, still preaches it, and doesn’t quench the Holy Spirit by forbidding or despising tongues, prophecy, or any other of the Spirit’s grace-gifts (d). <Notes> a) 1 Corinthians 14:12, b) Acts 2:43, 4:30, 5:12, 6:8, 8:6, 13, 14:3, 15:12, 19:11; 2 Corinthians 12:12, c) Acts 2:47, 5:14, 9:42, 11:24, 13:12, 16:34, d) 1 Corinthians 14:5, 39; 1 Thessalonians 5:19-20.
Paul’s ministry was “by-the-means-of logos message and deed, by-the means-of the enabling-power of signs & wonders by-the-means-of the enabling-power of the Spirit so that … I have pleroo fully/completely preached the gospel of Christ” (a). This implies that many of today’s preachers that don’t allow the supernatural aspects of the Holy Spirit are ‘incompletely preaching the gospel logos message,’ even though the Pentecostal and Charismatic churches ARE still preaching a ‘full gospel!’ This is especially true, since Paul qualified his preaching further: “My speech and logos message were absolutely-in-fact-NOT by-the-means-of peithos ‘plausible, persuasive, enticing, skillful’ logos messages of sophia wisdom, but by the means of apodeixis demonstrating-proof of the Spirit and/coupled of enabling-power” (b), and furthermore “our gospel came to you absolutely-in-fact-NOT only by-the-means-of logos message, but also by-the-means-of enabling-power and/specifically, by-the-means-of [singular] Holy Spirit” (c). Clearly today many churches are NOT preaching a ‘full gospel message!’ <Notes> a) Romans 15:18-19, b) 1 Corinthians 2:4, c) 1 Thessalonians 1:5.
The Holy Spirit is the Power we need for “The kingdom of God” we pray to come:
The Lord’s model of proseuche conversational-prayer for all Christians throughout the ages tells us how to make our request for “Thy kingdom to come, Thy will to be done” even a possibility in our lives. Otherwise, we are only “wishing upon a star!” As every good teacher does, Christ’s final teaching on proseuche conversational-prayer in Matthew 7:11 is about God’s “good grace-gifts to His children” (a), which likely refers to the same thing the parallel passage of Luke 11:13 does – “the grace-gift of the Holy Spirit [given] to those who are aiteo routinely asking Him.” This present participle within the Lord’s Prayer Model depicts a lifestyle habit of “diligently asking, seeking, knocking, begging or crying out for, craving, desiring, and requiring of” the Holy Spirit from the Father. If you are going to be doing any monologue of deesis supplication within your dialogue of proseuche conversational-prayer, this surely is the key to a powerful Christian life! And we’ll see that prophecy is likely the most important grace-gift of the Holy Spirit for the Church age!
Prophecy by definition is hearing/speaking the direct-spoken/heard rhema words of God – it is absolutely not knowledge gained from reading! This is explained thoroughly in BLOG Topic 2 below. The “testimony of Jesus” isn’t supposed to be anything but “the Spirit of prophecy” (a), but we have a lot of people preaching a lot other than what was heard directly from God! Jeremiah the prophet, “spoke from the mouth of Yahweh” (b) and understood that this is how God desires to speak to us (c), even though he understood there would be false prophets who “speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of Yahweh” (d). A lot of preachers are making stuff up or getting it from a book they read! I was the “Reference Books & Pastoral Aids” book buyer for the biggest Christian bookstore in Tucson, Arizona, and you should see the pure garbage that Christian Bookseller’s Association tries to sell – downright “doctrines of demons” and the “traditions of men!” We were constantly having to pull books off the shelves! <Notes> a) Revelation 19:10, b) 2 Chronicles 36:12, c) Jeremiah 9:12, d) Jeremiah 23:16.
The prophet Micah also understood “for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken” (a). When Isaiah prophesied, “The mouth of Yahweh has spoken” (b), for “the mouth of Yahweh has commanded” (c) or “has spoken” (d). Isaiah heard Yahweh declare the distinction of the New Covenant people and their Messiah: “And a Redeemer will come to Zion, . . . this is My Covenant with them: My Spirit that is upon You (the Redeemer) and My directly-spoken/heard prophetic rhema words that I have put in Your mouth, shall not depart out of Your mouth, or out of the mouth of Your offspring, or out of the mouth of Your children’s offspring,” says Yahweh, “from this time forth and forevermore” (e). That’s us Christians! “The Promise” isn’t for more gramma writings collected hundreds of years later into graphe scripture by mere men, but for more prophesying by ALL of God’s people – that’s what Moses wanted (f)! <Notes> a) Micah 4:4, b) Isaiah 1:20, c) Isaiah 34:16, d) Isaiah 40:5, 58:14, e) Isaiah 59:20-21 cited by Paul in Roman 11:26-28, f) Numbers 11:29.
Peter says “absolutely no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along/moved/driven by the Holy Spirit” (a). “The Promise” of the Holy Spirit’s manifestations is what was clearly in mind for ALL of God’s people far into the future, to the very end of the ages (b). <Notes> a) 2 Peter 1:21, b) Acts 1:4, 2:33, 38-39.
Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” is given by our “One Teacher,” the Holy Spirit:
Jesus promises His witnesses: “For it is absolutely-in-fact-NOT you who will speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you” (a), and “Do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say, but say whatever is given you in that hour, for it is absolutely-in-fact-NOT you who speak, but the Holy Spirit” (b), and “for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say” (c), and “The Helper (d), the Holy Spirit, … will teach you ALL things and bring to your remembrance ALL that I have said to you” (e), and “When the Spirit of The Truth comes, He will guide you into ALL The Truth . . . even things to come” (f). <Notes> a) Matthew 10:20, b) Mark 13:11, c) Luke 12:12, d) Parakletos: ‘Close-beside’ caller, summoner, or inviter; helper, succorer, or assistant; encouraging teacher, counselor, comforter, or consoler; defense-attorney, judicial-advocate, or court-intercessor, e) John 14:26, f) John 16:13.
There was absolutely no need to write down all of Christ’s teachings to teach other Christians then or far into the future! Jesus didn’t have any scribes (scripture experts and copiers) record any of His teachings, nor did He ask His apostles to do so! This is a radical deviation from standard rabbinical practice! All important rabbis had recorded their teachings in 18 volumes of the Mishneh Torah or 22 volumes of the Babylonian Talmud or 73 volumes of the Gemera commentaries, which include 1500 years of Oral Torah called the “Traditions of the Elders,” which the Jews believe to this day ALL are just as authoritative as the graphe scriptures.
The Holy Spirit’s Gift of Prophecy is for us Today:
Jesus expected there to be prophesy (a), even to the end of the ages, just as Peter said (b), even if some of this would be false (c), even if they still did it in Christ’s name/authority (d). The early Church had many prophets including Paul and Barnabas (e), even if some were false (f). The key signs of the Holy Spirit coming upon Christians was tongues, prophesy, and sometimes both at the same time (g), because they often related to each other (h). <Notes> a) Matthew 10:41, b) Acts 1:4, 2:33, 38-39, c) Matthew 7:15, 24:11, 24; Mark 13:22, d) Matthew 7:22, e) Acts 11:27, 13:1, 21:9-10, f) Acts 13:6, g) Acts 2:4, 10:44-46, 19:6, h) 1 Corinthians 14:6.
Prophecy is a grace-gift listed for the entire Church (a), often listed second after apostleship to possibly indicate its importance in the Church (b), certainly to be most sought after (c), and is thus assumed to be commonplace or the norm in the Church (d), but especially as a sign for believers (e) – even though an ‘outsider’ who hears the whole church doing this “will be convicted by all, he is called to account by all, the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you” (f). Don’t we want this to happen in our churches? <Notes> a) 1 Corinthians 12:10, b) Romans 12:6; 1 Corinthians 12:28-29, 14:5; Ephesians 2:20, 3:5, 4:11, c) 1 Corinthians 14:1, 39, d) 1 Corinthians 11:4-5, 13:8-9, 14:6, 24, 37, e) 1 Corinthians 14:22, f) 1 Corinthians 14:23-25.
But primarily, prophecy is to build the assembly up instead of the individual as tongues does (a), even giving rules for orderly prophesying so that all of them could participate and/or weigh in on what was said to learn and be encouraged together – a key aspect of koinonia fellowship greatly lacking in many churches (b), and that through prophecy other grace-gifts came into people’s lives (c) as with the laying on of hands that imparted the filling/baptism of the Spirit and the subsequent grace-gifts (d). <Notes> a) 1 Corinthians 14:3, cf. 1 Corinthians 14:4; Jude 1:20, b) 1 Corinthians 14:29, 31-32, c) 1 Timothy 1:18, 4:14, d) Acts 8:18, 9:17; 2 Timothy 1:6.
The Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” is “The Promise” for the Church Age:
After the outpouring of the promised Holy Spirit on Pentecost, complete with supernatural prophecy and worship in tongues, Peter says in the first sermon of the Church Age (“the last days“) in Acts 2:17-19 citing Joel 2:28-29: “This is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: In the last days it SHALL ACTUALLY BE, God declares, that I will pour out My Spirit on pas all mankind: For your sons and your daughters SHALL ACTUALLY prophesy – that is, your young men SHALL ACTUALLY envision visions (a) and/coupled your old men SHALL ACTUALLY dream dreams, that is, upon My male servants and female servants in those days I SHALL ACTUALLY pour out My Spirit, and they SHALL ACTUALLY prophesy.” As often is the case, pas doesn’t mean “every of a whole,” but “all those of a class/category/portion of, as defined by the context” – here ultimately, the smaller class of “My servants” of the larger class “mankind” during the Church Age (b) before Christ’s Second Coming.
<Notes> a) horao horasis: generally to observe with the eyes, implying attention, concern, or heed, sometimes being acquainted through experience, but often emphasizing a mental ‘seeing’ to perceive/know with a discerning or ‘weighing-in’ mind. For more about discernment – see New Covenant Ways – BT16. This is very similar to optanomai: gaze in awe with wide-open eyes upon used in Matthew 5:8; John 16:22; Romans 15:21; Acts 13:31; 1 John 3:2 or katoptrizo that is kataptron mirror + a derivative of optanomai = gaze in awe with wide-open eyes as in a mirror used only in 1 Corinthians 3:18, b) Hebrews 1:2; 2 Timothy 3:1; James 5:3; 2 Peter 3:3.
Zechariah 4:6 also spoke 520 years earlier about the New Covenant period: “It shall absolutely-in-fact-NO longer be by-the-means-of might nor power (a), but by-the-means-of My Spirit.” No more religious works FOR God! Clearly “The Promise” is the “the Spirit’s manifested outpouring, most often demonstrated by tongues and prophecy – speaking God’s directly-spoken/heard prophetic rhema words, particularly received by dreams and visions. There is absolutely no hint of more sacred gramma letters collected hundreds of years later by mere men into graphe scripture, or any second-hand contact, communicated logos messages, even if these are later written and collected over 300 years by mere men into a bible after much argumentation – see Bible Info! <Notes> a) Hebrew for all of man’s external resources and internal abilities.
For the completely different-in-kind chadash/kainos New Covenant, God completely switched to a Living Logos Message of God NOW perfectly communicated by His Holy Spirit through eido “seeing” to perceive/know and prophetic rhema that we either directly akouo hear/listen-to-understand or more likely “see” as pictures during the day (visions) or at night (dreams) (a) or in some other way genuinely, experientially, relationally epiginosko know. There are plenty of verses that tell us the Church age is the “last days” that we are in (b) before Christ’s return to take the Church home (c), and that there is no other indication in the bible of any other way that God intends to speak to us NOW during this age. <Notes> a) Acts 2:17-19, b) 2 Timothy 3:1; Hebrews 1:2; James 5:3; 2 Peter 3:3, c) 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
“The promise of the Holy Spirit” that people saw and heard (a) on the Day of Pentecost at the beginning of the Church Age or “Last Days” in Acts 2:33 is the same “grace-gift of the Holy Spirit” that is “The Promise that is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to Himself” in Acts 2:38. That was Peter’s “Action Item Promise” for the first sermon! That includes us! The Church of Christ that I was saved in is dead wrong (b), as many churches who don’t believe in prophesying or the other charismata grace-gifts! The New Testament and careful study of Church history are very clear about this (c)! Don’t you want the Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God”? <Notes> a) tongues of fire, speaking in tongues, and prophesying, b) and boy were they “dead as a doornail” as a result, c) Read Acts 19:6; 1 Corinthians 12:10, 28-29, 13:2, 9, 14:1, 5, 29, 32, 37, 39; Ephesians 2:20, 3:5, 4:11; Revelation 10:11, 11:3, 6, 18, 16:6; Romans 12:6, 18:20, 19:10; 1 Timothy 4:14; 2 Peter 1:21; Acts 11:27, 13:1, 15:32, 21:10; James 5:10.
Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” is “The Voice of Christ” to us:
You can read, read, and read the bible, but if you don’t “akouo hear to understand My Voice,” then you simply are not “My sheep,” per Jesus in John 10:16, 27. Creating more graphe scripture, even a record of “everything Jesus taught or did,” or a written record of the gospel logos message, was never “The Promise of the Father” because akouo hearing to understand/know and eido mentally ‘seeing’ to perceive/know the Lord directly by-the-means-of the Holy Spirit was! The Great Commission does NOT tell us to preach everything Jesus taught the disciples, but the only 2 commandments of trusting-relying-faith in the Son and unconditional-love for one another just as Christ gave us example to follow. That is the gospel logos message! Why are we preaching something else?
We don’t have a complete record of Christ’s actions or teachings as John 21:25 admits, because Jesus said in Matthew 10:19 & Mark 13:11 that what was to be preached “would be given in that very hour by the Holy Spirit.” That’s why no written record was made during Christ’s ministry, as every other disciple of every other rabbi would have made! Jeremiah 31:31-34 clearly says that God had a completely different-in-kind New Covenant ministry in mind – going direct through prophetic-rhema words! That’s why Paul said in 2 Corinthians 3:3-6 we “absolutely-in-fact-NO longer have a ministry of the gramma letters written by ink but-instead by-the-means-of [singular] Spirit of [singular] zao Genuinely-Living God, absolutely-in-fact-NO longer on tablets of stone but-instead NOW on tablets of human hearts, . . . ministers of a completely different-in-kind New Covenant. For the gramma letter kills, but the Spirit gives zoe genuine-life” – see Logos Word of God – BT20. What are we preaching? The Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God”?
Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God” in Worship Music:
It’s hard to see what role a Christian musician has in Christ’s Church if they aren’t akouo hearing/listening to understand or eido mentally ‘seeing’ to perceive/know by optanomai gazing with wide-open eyes the directly-spoken/heard/seen/felt prophetic rhema words of God, even revealed to us by having visions during the day or dreams at night. Without God speaking to, in, and through Christian musicians, what do they have to offer but their own “might and power” flesh to play THIER music FOR God, which is the definition of religion. Do they think that God is entertained by it? Or is this simply “entertainment of the saints?” There really has just been so much of this going on, that it is rather disheartening! But others have seen through this “religion” and fence-straddling with the world, and decided to press onto a much higher calling – to play “by-the-means-of My Spirit, says Yahweh” of hosts!
As Christian musicians, don’t we want God to “work together WITH us?” Then we have to stick to preaching the gospel and have pressing-in trusting-relying-faith to routinely receive Spirit-Baptism with its accompanying grace-gifts, signs, and wonders. However, if we despise, forbid, or stop pressing in for this, then we end up borrowing from the old covenant or the world to build The Great Wall that quenches the Holy Spirit and are “going it alone” without “The Promise of the Father.” We may convince ourselves that we “have a secret deposit buried within us” but we do not have the demonstrable-proof that gave the early Church or those during revival confidence they they are even Christians let alone to preach the gospel effectively. This really is a “disconnection from The Vine of Christ that results in absolutely no fruit from the kingdom,” as Christ spoke of in John 15. It never was God’s intention of have a “logos message-only” gospel, but much of the Church has tried this, with dismal results – the natural without the supernatural is powerless! Jesus said in John 6:33 that the “might and power” of “the flesh is weak, feeble, useless, worthless, are of no advantage, and profit nothing,” but only “My prophetic-rhema words are Spirit and zoe genuine-life, and in context He was referring to the entire Jewish religion! Wouldn’t you rather have the Rhema Prophetic-Spoken “Word of God”?
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