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That’s what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:22 but quotes “the Law” in v. 14:21 as proof.  However, even though bibles indicate this is Deuteronomy 28:49 it would be an obscure reference, except for the last part of not listening to God:  “a nation far away being brought by the Lord against Israel, a nation who phone voice/language/dialect you absolutely-in-fact-NOT akouo listen/hear-to-understand/know.”  More likely Paul is citing Isaiah 28:11-12 “For dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of heteros ‘another of a different kind of’ (a) cheilos  ‘lips that produces languages/dialects’; [plural] heteroglossos ‘another-of-a-different-kind of tongues/languages’ (b) I (God) (c) will speak to these people [d: to whom He (God) (e) has said (f), ‘This is the rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose,’] yet they would absolutely-in-fact-NOT eisakouo deeply listen/hear-to-understand/know” (g).  Anybody who says we are highly confident in the text of the bible is trying to sell you property in the Florida’s swamps – see Bible Info.


<Notes> a) LXX Greek: phatne  ‘a manger made from a cattle feeding box’ sound off-the-wall, or more likely Hebrew laeg stammering/mocking because of the way Isaiah mocks the future rabbis of Christ’s day and their way of ‘knowing God’ – see New Covenant-BT17,  –BT18, and Least Among You – BT3, b) LXX Greek: dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of heteros ‘another of a different kind of’ [singular] glossa tongue/language, c) LXX Greek: they or Hebrew: He (God), d) this section is missing in Paul’s writing, e) LXX Greek: they – this may be a reference to the Pentecost 120 disciples and others afterwards that spoke God’s message even by tongues, which fits Isaiah’s argument, f) Greek LXX: is presently-routinely-saying, g) Hebrew & LXX simply has akouo listen/hear-to-understand/know, and Paul adds: “Me, says the Lord.”


We also see Jesus and other New Testament writers refer to all parts of the Old Testament as “The Law” – see Logos Word of God – BT5a, but Christians aren’t supposed to have anything to do with the Law – see New Covenant Ways – BT4b.  Jesus is also obviously alluding to Isaiah 28’s “rest and repose” when He said in Matthew 11:28, “Come here now close-beside Me, all who labor and/coupled are heavily-burdened, and I will give you rest” for Hebrews 4:9 indicates that Jesus is “the Sabbath Rest for the people of God.”  This is integral to the gospel logos message that the Messiah and His disciples would preach that Isaiah predicts the teachers would mock.


Now Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:22 that these “different-in-kind-of lips producing different-in-kind-of glossa tongues/languages” from v. 14:21 that Isaiah 28:11-12 prophesied about are actually the Holy Spirit’s grace-gift of supernatural glossa tongues/languages given as “a semeionmiraculous signs given to confirm, corroborate, or authenticate’ to the apistos ones-NOT-having-trusting-relying-faith.”  But this particular grace-gift is coming from people who have trusting-relying-faith (a), who have been given the “grace-gift of the Holy Spirit” (b) that is “promised to you and your children and for all who are far off, all that God calls to Himself” during “the last days/times” or “the end of the age(s)” or Gospel-Church Age from Acts 2:4 Pentecost on until the return of Christ (c) in order to convince the “apistos ones-NOT-having-trusting-relying-faith” from many nations of the validity of the gospel’s logos message (d).  Yet, Paul found that so many Jews refused to have trusting-relying-faith in their Messiah Jesus, just as Isaiah prophesied!  Nevertheless, we saw above that Jesus says He still is the place of “rest and repose” for the weary [in context: of the burden of the Law that the rabbis overburdened them with], just as we see Isaiah and Paul saying. <Notes> a) Mark 16:17, b) Acts 2:38, 10:45; Hebrews 6:4, c) 1 Peter 1:20; Hebrews 1:2, 9:26; Acts 2:17, 39; 1 Corinthians 10:11; 2 Timothy 3:1; James 5:3; 2 Peter 3:3, until it’s finality at the great harvest when the Church is “raptured/removed” before the Judgement of the Earth:  Matthew 13:39-40, 49; 24:3, 28:20, d) Matthew 24:14, 28:19; Mark 13:10; Luke 24:47; Romans 1:5, 16:26; 1 Timothy 3:16.


Indeed Isaiah 28:2-6 speaks of the “Lord having One who is mighty and strong like a storm of hail, a destroying tempest . . . in that DAY Yahweh of angelic armies will be a crown of glory like a diadem of beauty to the remnant of His people and a Spirit of justice . . . a strength to those . . .”  The passage is clearly speaking of the coming Messiah to rescue some from “the Great and Awesomely-Terrifying Day of the Lord” against the faithless, raging nations (a).  But in Isaiah 28:7-8 to the rabbinical “priests and prophets” of Christ’s day:  “they reel with wine, stagger with strong drink, they reel in [prophetic] vision, they stumble in giving judgment, for their tables are full of filthy vomit with no space left [for true prophets to speak at].” <Notes> a) 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10; 1 Corinthians 5:5; Acts 2:20 referring to:  Amos 5:18; Joes 1:15, 2:1-2, 11, 31, 3:14; Isaiah 13:6, 9; Jeremiah 46:10, Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3, Zephaniah 1:7-8, 14, Zechariah 14:1f, Malachi 4:5.


We know about these study “tables” from Paul in Romans 11:7-10 to explain why much of “Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking.  The elect (the Church) obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written [in Isaiah 29:10] (a) – ‘God gave them a spirit of stupor (b), eyes that would in-possibility-NOT see and ears that would in-possibility-NOT akouo ‘listen/hear-to-understand/know’, down to this very day’.”  Paul said it was still going on!  Then Paul cites David in Psalms 69:22-23, “Let their table become a snare (c) and a trap (d), a stumbling block (e) and [finally] a retribution (f) for them: [by] letting their eyes be darkened so that cannot eido ‘mentally ‘see’ to perceive/know’ (g) and their backs completely bent (h) continually.”  There’s that key word eido from Jeremiah 31:34 that God promises for ALL His children under the completely-different-in-kind New Covenant, especially to the “least among you.”  <Notes> a) This is a common theme in Deuteronomy 29:4, Isaiah 43:8, Jeremiah 5:21, and Ezekiel 12:2, b) appropriate for the drunks they were, c) for birds, d) for animals, e) trap/snare trigger causing the trap to be sprung, f) vengeful recompense: pay back! g) eido is prophetic vision as prophesied in Jeremiah 31:34 is the key to being able to horao ‘see with the mind or perceive inwardly’ horasis ‘visions’ as prophecy due to Spirit-Baptism in Acts 2:17-19 for ALL of God’s servants, h) also a metaphor of a captive under a securing, burdening yoke of slavery, but also figuratively of hardness of heart from error.


Sola Scriptura “By Scripture Alone” students can really only prove they have gnosis info-knowledge!  Paul says they are cursed!  They are “blind guides, the blind leading the blind so that both fall into the pit [of hell]” (a). All they have to show for all their study is sore, bent backs and they are cursed with “bent backs continually!”  Are we calling Christians to this same failed, cursed approach to knowing God? <Notes> a) Matthew 15:14; 23:16, 24.


So Isaiah 28:9 asks this question “to whom will He (Christ) anagello announce-declare [in detail] tidings (a) or yarah throw out-instruction and/coupled to whom will He make to discern-understand (b) the shemuah/aggelia announced-message (c)?”  Certainly not these rabbinical “priests and prophets” who were still so immature from God’s viewpoint, “just weaned from milk drawn from the breasts.”  The New Testament writers and early Church had a list of about 600 OT verses about the Messiah and New Covenant they used to catechize-‘teach-by-rote as if little children’ Jews to convert them to Christ, about 2.6% of the OT, but these prophetic “oracles of God” was still considered “babies milk” just as Isaiah alluded to, in comparison to the “solid food” of the prophetic discernment of the Holy Spirit (d).


<Notes> a) The term eu + aggelion for good tidings/news is used 76 times for the ‘Great News’ of gospel logos message throughout the New Testament, b) biyn: mentally distinguish for understanding and discernment – see New Covenant Ways – BT16 and Bible Info – BT2 and Least Among You – BT8 – or diligently/eloquently instruct. The Greek is again anagello, c) shemuah: something heard, announcement, news report, rumor, tidings, fame, doctrine; aggelia: thing announced, a precept or message – see logos Word of God, d) 1 Corinthians 3:2; Hebrews 5:12-13, not to be confused with 1 Peter 2:2 milk directly from the Spirit.  I had a vision on 11-21-21 that explain the Spirit’s comforting milk.


Jesus accuse the scribes and Pharisees in John 5:38-40 that “presently/ongoingly diligently search/study the scriptures” as the expert bible-students of the day, although they simply “routinely bear-witness/testify peri all-around-about Me, you are presently/ongoingly absolutely-in-fact-NOT optimally-desiring to come to Me in order that you may presently/ongoing hold-to-have zoe genuine-life.”  The bible-experts just went back to their bible-study of the Old Testament logos ‘Word of God’ instead of the phone Voice of the Lord.  I find myself falling into this “snare, trap, and stumbling block” all too often, ending up with only “a bent back continually.”  The problem is that so many churches and seminaries preach this – they are insuring they will stay in business!  The rabbis made a good living for 1500 years doing this – see Ministry Finances.


Isaiah 28:13 says of these people that the Lord is calling to “rest and repose,” that instead they “absolutely-in-fact-NOT eakouo deeply listen/hear-to-understand/know:   “And/thus the logos message of Yahweh will be to THEM precept (a) upon precept, precept upon precept, line (or rule) upon line (or rule), line upon line, here a little (b), there a little.”  You have to be careful to follow the Hebrew & Greek LXX pronouns to know who is talking to who, something that English bibles do a terrible job of – see Bible Info for more problems with translations.  Many scholars (c) have correctly seen in the Hebrew this to be a gibberish, childish song of mocking those “priests and prophets” who are the so-called “wise and understanding-ones” (d), as did Jeremiah (e) and Jesus (f) and Paul (g).  Isaiah mocks their rabbinical methods of teaching people how to know God through bible-study even as they had mocked the prophets, even Isaiah, and ultimately killing them all, just as Jesus said they did (h), as they planned on doing to the Son (i), and that they would do to Christ’s prophets and apostles (j).  This exactly describes the rabbinical method of “diligently searching/studying the scripture” that Jesus spoke of in John 5:38 to understand God’s will as a series of “precepts, regulations, ordinances” of the Law “taught by humans” by rote (k) – a very slow, difficult, process with comparatively childish results!  Why are so many churches and Christians wanting to follow the same failed methods of the Jewish rabbis?


<Notes> a) command, ordinance, oracle, b) “In this case the Hebrew zeer for “a little” refers to the short syllabic structure of the babbling – cf. CEV “senseless sound after senseless sound,” Revised English Bible and see pg. 1010 of Koehler, L., W. Baumgartner, and J. J. Stamm. The Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament, c) The NET bible says the repetitive syllables of “indeed a little there, a little here” or “command after command, command after command” are gibberish that resembles baby talk [cf. v. 28:9b] and mimics what the people will hear when foreign invaders conquer the land [v. 28:11], d) Isaiah 29:14, e) Jeremiah 8:9, f) Matthew 11:25; Luke 10:21, g) 1 Corinthians 1:19, h) Matthew 23:37; Luke 11:47, 13:34; cf. Acts 7:52; Romans 11:3; possibly 1 Thessalonians 2:15, i) Matthew 21:38; Mark 8:31, 9:31; Luke 9:22; 1 Thessalonians 2:15, j) Luke 11:49; possibly 1 Thessalonians 2:15, k) Romans 2:26; Colossians 2:20, 22; Hebrews 9:1, 10; Ephesians 2:15.


The Message Bible says:  “We’re not babies in diapers to be talked down to by such as you – ‘Da, da, da, da, blah, blah, blah, blah. That’s a good little girl, that’s a good little boy.’”  The Expanded Bible  notes:  “This may be the people mocking the words of the true prophets as nonsense,” but I find that careful analysis of the Hebrew and Greek LXX shows that it’s actually God through the true prophets like Isaiah who are mocking these false priest-teachers and prophetsThe Living Bible says: “he (wrong pronoun) tells us everything over and over again, a line at a time and in such simple words.”  Names of God Bible says:  “They (correct pronoun) speak utter nonsense.”  Gill’s exposition notes say:  “Signifying, that they (correct pronoun) must be dealt with as children were, when first instructed in the rudiments of a language, first had one rule given them, and then another, and so one after another till they had gone through the whole.”  This is exactly the New Testament’s argument in Paul’s writings and the Book of Hebrews about the Jewish people needing child-like, hand-holding ‘rote’ padagogos or paideuo childlike-training of the stoicheion elementary ‘abc’ fundamentals of the gramma writings of graphe scripture (a) that was baby’s “milk” because the “solid food” was discernment by the Holy Spirit.  The failed rabbinical method of expository teaching is childlike but we have entire church denominations like Calvary Chapel that pride themselves in this – see New Covenant Ways – BT16 and Bible Info – BT2, and Least Among You – BT8<Notes> a) Hebrews 5:12-13; Romans 3:2; Acts 7:38; 1 Peter 4:11.


Matthew Henry notes:  “Those (correct pronoun) that teach are drunk with wine, or intoxicated with false doctrines and notions.”  Barnes notes:  “There is a constant repetition of the command, without ornament, imagery, or illustration; without an appeal to our understanding, or respect for our reason; it is simply one mandate after another, just as lessons are inculcated upon children.”  Keil and Delitzch note: “the short words are intended to throw ridicule upon the smallness and vexatious character of the prophet’s interminable and uninterrupted chidings,” but although this may that the rabbis are mocking God’s prophets, it’s clear from the pronouns and context and New Testament fulfillment that God is throwing this right back in their faces!


It’s all about context!  Isaiah 28:1-9 is a chastisement and a warning by God to Ephraim directed to the false teacher-priests and prophets through the prophet Isaiah about their drunkenness and to stop corrupting the rhema spoken ‘word of God’ through the addition or replacement of these written prophecies with their own words from rabbinical bible-study – where we get The Oral Torah or Traditions of the Elders that Jesus and Paul had great disdain for (a) – who therefore embraced idolatry; thereby contaminating the truths in graphe scripture about the God whom they were commanded to worship (b).  What these false teacher-priests and prophets add with their rabbinical Oral Traditions is childish gibberish!  Why?  Because the written-words were for childlike ‘rote’ learning and now they are adding even more to it!  What they should be doing right now is listening to their true prophets speak, but they go back to writings!  <Notes> a) Matthew 15:2-3, 6; Mark 7:3-13; Galatians 1:14; Colossians 2:8, b) cf. Isaiah 8:19-20.


What was the result of turning away from the person of Jesus and direct revelation from the Holy Spirit through prophesy?  Isaiah goes onto say in v. 28:13:  “That they [these teachers] may go, and fall backward kai and/related be broken kai and/related snared kai and/related lakad/alisgema ‘captured, seized, taken, entrapped/polluted, contaminated, or threshed” – see New Covenant Ways – BT17 and – BT18.


What amazes me is how many bible-scholars and translators get some of the details correct, but then don’t evidently have the discernment of the Holy Spirit, don’t read Isaiah 28 carefully, especially the pronouns and the context, and don’t see how the New Testament repeatedly uses Isaiah 28 to explain Acts 2:5-6 Pentecost-thru-Church-Age glossa tongues/languages as a “proving sign for unbelievers” that Paul also cites in 1 Corinthians 14:21-23 to build an argument for proper Christian use of glossa tongues/languages in church-assemblies, even though Isaiah 28’s “false priest-teachers and prophets” are clearly the scribes & Pharisees of Christ’s day who indeed in Acts 2:13 mocked the 120 upper-room disciples who were the true prophets of that Pentecost, saying: “They (the tongueprophesiers) are mestoo filled-full-with gleukos ‘highly-inebriating, fresh-juice, sweet, newly fermented wine’.”  This is exactly what Isaiah said would happen, but we know from Isaiah and Jesus that these rabbis were drunken hypocrites (a).  The New Testament is the “substance and reality” of the Old Testament “shadows and copies” (b).  You must always interpret backwards for the greater light of the New Testament, but it doesn’t look like some of these commentators bothered to do so! <Notes> a) Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, 7:5, 15:7 citing Isaiah, 22:18, 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29; Mark 7:6 citing Isaiah; Luke 6:42, 12:56, 13:15, b) Colossians 2:17; Hebrews 8:5, 10:1.


Therefore, tongues is an effective “miraculous proving-sign to authenticate” ‘The Great News” of the gospel logos message for 1 of the 3 ‘intended audiences” Paul addresses in 1 Corinthians – the apistos unbelievers and absolutely NO interpretation is needed because when God interprets His directly-spoken rhema words inside them to produce trusting-relying-faith.  That’s what makes it a “miraculous proving-sign” to them!


Thank the Lord that He gives to some people according to 1 Corinthians 12:6 diairesis ‘distinct-differences, distributed-divisions made dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of personal choice [of God]’ of diakonia ‘services/ministries thru them toward others’ kai and/also diairesis ‘distinct-differences, distributed-divisions made dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of personal choice [of God]” of energema ‘energized, operating, working effects or results.”  In other words, the Lord works thru these people to produce His work in others – here apistos unbelievers!  The Lord gets all the credit because we are only vessels!  All we have to do is surrender to the Lord, open our mouths, and have trusting-relying-faith that He will do the rest!  That’s what I will do in parks as I give prophetic Drum-Declarations!  I know the Lord will people with those sound waves, from my drums and/or lips, amplify them and translate them into what He wants them to understand!



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