Conversational Prayer – BT3

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Relentless, devoted conversational-prayer is often required to experience Spirit-baptism for enabling-power




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Spirit-baptism is the enabling-power for metamorphic transformation, and this is only through the renewal of our hearts and minds by a habitual lifestyle of conversational-prayer!  The overwhelming teaching and historical evidence of the NT and subsequent early Church history, as well as the history of subsequent revivals, is that the outpouring, immersion, or filling of Spirit-baptism didn’t just occur once at Pentecost to start the Church or even once at a person’s water-baptism when they proseuchomai conversationally-prayed for this “promised grace-gift,” but occurred repetitively to the same Christians because of individual and corporate obedient steps of faith to clear NT imperatives to “be routinely filled by the Spirit” (a) and to be devoted to “routinely asking for this in proseuche conversational-prayer until they received this grace-gift of the Father” (b). It’s the only way to experience “Thy kingdom come…Thy will be done” (c)!  If your trusting-relying-faith is stuck in the bible, that’s all you get! <Notes> a) Ephesians 5:18, b) Matthew 7:11; Luke 11:13, c) Matthew 6:10; Luke 11:2.


Cessationism is a “doctrine of demons” taught by powerless men to keep Christians powerless! The early Church writers said you can’t separate the grace-gifts or signs & wonders from the fruit of the Spirit, because excluding the former is “cutting yourself off from the Vine so that you cannot bear fruit” (a).  The indwelling Spirit wasn’t a doctrine that you had to simply take by trusting-relying-faith – simply confessing the creeds and dogma that a later powerless Church came up with!  When the Spirit came into a new believer, there were visible signs of overwhelming unconditional-love, joy, peace, and exuberate worship, often with supernatural tongues and prophecy – hearing prophetic rhema words directly-spoken to you from God and then speaking them to God and others.  This was the evidence that a person actually does have Christ and is saved!  There was no wishing or guessing involved.  It was obvious to you and everybody else!  A lot of so-called Christians are not saved at all, though they may say they are. The NT is full of people saying one thing, but the NT writers saying they were tragically deceived. <Notes> a) John 15:4-7.


Paul “wants all Christians to earnestly desire the Spirit’s grace-gifts, all to proseuchomai conversationally-pray and sing by the Spirit in tongues, just like he does, but especially to prophecy.” “Apostling, prophesying, evangelizing/preaching, and shepherd-teaching” are the Spirit’s ongoing “grace-gifts to simply equip – coach and facilitate – the saints to do the ergon ‘doing/work’ of ministry,” according to Paul (a).  This is about Body-Ministry, not watching the referees and coaches play the football game!  Peter quoted the Prophet Joel on Pentecost (b) that said only “prophecy, even thru dreams and visions,” was the singular way God would speak to His “men and woman servants in the Last Days/Church Age.”  <Notes> a) Ephesians 4:7-12, b) Acts 2:17-19.


Many so-called ‘Christians’ are not only NOT saved, but they don’t have the supernatural enabling-power to stop practicing sin, because only The Truth, Jesus, by His indwelling Spirit “can set you free from the slavery of sin!  ONLY God’s Spirit poured into our hearts will cause us to keep His statutes and obey His ways” (a).  For the unconditional-love of/belonging-to God constrains or controls us; we unconditionally-love because He first unconditionally-loved us – this is not a doctrine but genuine, experiential, relational epignosis knowledge!  “Self-control” is the end result or final ‘flavor’ of the [singular] fruit of the Spirit presently/ongoingly is-defined-as/exists-as Unconditional-Love!  It isn’t a word to study and try to do – you will fail miserably!  I actually heard 1 preacher say that you need to study and master the fruit of Unconditional-Love, and then study and master the fruit of joy, and then study and master the fruit of peaceful-rest, and keep doing this until you finally get to the 9th fruit of self-control. This is insane!  Karpos fruit is singular, not plural, and the first word agape Unconditional-Love is the direct object, just as 1 John 4:8, 16 says “God is-defined-as/exists-as agape Unconditional-Love” period, and the other 8 words are simply adjective-nouns describing the flavors of the singular fruit.  Also, what vine or tree have you ever seen that has 9 different kinds of fruit on it?  Insane!  Only after we filled by the Spirit of Unconditional-Love will we have peaceful-rest from our ergon ‘doing/works’ of holiness/sanctification attempts to be free from sin. Only then will we have food and drink for our hungering and thirsting for righteousness. <Notes> a) Ezekiel 11:20, 36:27; Philippians 2:13; Hebrews 13:21; 1 Corinthians 12:6, 15:10.


Plan A simply relies on a routine lifestyle habit of conversational-prayer, but every religion insists on something else or tries to put the cart before the horses by trying to do the ergon ‘doing/works’ ourselves through “spiritual disciplines” or “church programs” to get the “3 results that God promises” in the previous BLOG without following the “4 Parts of 1 obedient step of faith” also in the previous BLOG.  Religious people work to acquire the grace-gifts on their own or to earn it from God, but then they would NOT be by the unconditional-loving-favor-of-grace, and thus religious people won’t have enough trusting-relying-faith to follow these “4 Parts of 1 obedient step of faith” that “the righteous ones shall live by.” For more about the relentlessness of trusting-relying-faith, see Obedient Steps of Faith – BT16.  For more about the relentlessness of conversational-prayer, see Conversational-Prayer – BT19..




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