Fellowship – BT3:  Starting a relationship with the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit




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Fellowship – BT3:  Starting a relationship with the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit



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See also Salvation page


Starting a relationship with Father and Son:  All the New Testament (NT) Greek words in the previous BLOGs are used to describe a koinonia communal fellowship WITH the Father (a) and WITH the Son, even in koinonia sharing of Christ’s suffering in the midst of our own trials/persecution (b), just as we “sumphutos united-together-with Christ in a death like His” thru our water-baptism to be saved (c).  Our vertical relationship with God directly affects our “koinonia sharing in God’s holy nature” (d) or “being koinonia partakers of the divine nature” (e), which is the very reason our Father “paideuo ‘educationally-trains us like little-childen‘ for our own good” (d), “treating us as matured-sons . . . something all matured-sons have been metochos ‘changed-after-sharing-with’ [the Father] (f) (g), so that “we may not be condemned along with the world” (h).  We simply must be changed by the Holy nature of Father-God by being meno connected-to Him in koinonia intimate fellowship!  For that reason, Jesus “became a metochos changed-sharer (f) in our flesh and blood nature so that through death He might destroy him (the devil) who had the power of death” (i).


<Notes> a) 1 John 1:3, 6, 7; 1 Corinthians 1:9; 2 Peter 1:2-5, b) Philippians 3:10; 2 Corinthians 1:7; Hebrews 10:32-34; 1 Peter 4:13, c) Romans 6:5; Colossians 2:12; 2 Corinthians 4:10; Philippians 3:10-11, d) Hebrews 12:10 – this is not ‘tough love’ harsh disciplinary action as too many bibles mislead you to believe – see Least Among You – BT11 and Unconditional-Love – BT2, e) 2 Peter 1:4, f) metochos: changed due to sharing or being an active-partaker with, g) Hebrews 12:6-8, matured children, no longer like slaves of the Law, but inheritors of the promises because of Christ, h) 1 Corinthians 11:32, i) Hebrews 2:14.


Our relationship with the Father starts through our relationship with the Son, God’s representation on earth, and this starts when we are sumphutos united-together-with Jesus in His death, burial, and resurrection during our water-baptism.  That’s also when our relationship with the Spirit begins – yes, all this during our water-baptism!  “Blessed and holy/set-apart are those who routinely/habitually hold-to-have a share/portion (a) in the first resurrection – the second death has in fact no power over them, but they will be priests of God and/coupled of Christ and/thus will reign with Him” (b). <Notes> a) meros, b) Revelation 20:6.


When does that happen?  Paul explains:  “Do you not know that all of us who have been water-baptized into Christ Jesus were water-baptized into His death?  We were buried therefore with Him by water-baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory (a) of the Father, we too might walk/live in/by/with completely-different-kind ‘newness’ of zoe genuine-life.  For IF we have been umphutos united-together-with Him in a death like His, we shall CERTAINLY be umphutos united-together-with Him in a resurrection like His” (b).  <Notes> a) Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11, b) Romans 6:3-5.


Many verses like 1 Peter 3:21 and Mark 16:16 also say you simply cannot be saved without water-baptism because “Water-baptism . . . now saves you ALSO [v.20: like the ark safely brought Noah’s family to safety thru-the-realizing-channel-of water] . . . as an eperotema ‘earnest-seeking-by-REQUEST-for [a] suneidesis ‘good/clear conscience – an eido seeing-perception sun together-with God’ eis ‘toward and reaching the goal of’ God dia thru-the-realizing-channel-of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”  Yes, this “seeking-inquiry/request from God for a clear conscience” is exactly what Romans 10:13 speaks of: “Everyone who ‘calls on’ the name/authority of the Lord/Master-owner [Jesus] shall indeed be saved” – and all through the NT the place they did that was water-baptism!  See also ‘Confession of the Faith’ in Surrender Control.  See the Salvation page for other Obedient-Steps-of-Faith involved in salvation.




As Christian musicians, don’t we want to koinonia share in God’s holy nature?  If so, we must become like “little children of God” so-trained by our heavenly Father.  The NT is crystal clear that our fellowship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit begins with our water-baptism.  If you haven’t taken this “obedient step of faith,” how can you possibly play “by-the-means-of the Spirit” if you haven’t experienced the initial “pleroo filling-to-completion of the Holy Spirit,” which is called “Spirit-baptism?”  This is not some invisible gnosis informational “theology, dogma, or creed” head-knowledge you have to simply “take by faith” but a genuine, full, experiential, relational epignosis knowledge that you either have or don’t, and it was very visible to the witnesses of your water-baptism!  If you don’t, then all you have is playing “by you own “might and power” of the flesh!  And this is simply not the New Covenant Way!




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Spiritual Education, Starting a relationship with God for salvation, Communing with the Father and Son, Sharing in Christ’s suffering thru our own trials, Our relationship with God is how we share in His Holiness by the Holy Spirit, God gently educationally-trains us like little-children so we won’t be condemned with the world, Water-baptism starts our relationship when we share in Christ’s death burial resurrection

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